It was blocky looking, didn’t have the heft and feel of my Baretta M9. I have always passed on Glock’s in the past because the front sight likes to tip up in the air when I grip the pistol. My prior defense gun was a Walther P99. I got it after Glock worked the bugs out of the spring and it is sensational. As Sweeny likes to say….”Simple is Good”! You can sharpen a knife on the top of a Glock slide. A shame. Apparently, it was a bad batch that went out in several guns. I am not new to shooting. My Gold Cup will shoot anything from 180 SWC to 230FMJ,and all with great accuracy–thats more than i can say about any pistol talked about in the above feedbackes! No malfunctions yet with cheapy plinking rounds. It just feels good to me – going back to the Gen I. I have experienced problems with my tac lights as well both laser and rail attached in the 40 S&W. Glock recall on recoil springs. Does that sound like an PROBLEM is occuring?? Initially Glock Austria was blaming the problems on weak American ammo (SAAMI Spec.) Will be getting a Glock 35 Gen 4 tomorrow. The Glock Gen 3 series features a single recoil spring, as opposed to the double spring of the Gen 4 and Gen 5 series. Ok, John, you must have a small penis. But the finish now used, no name! But all of the sub compacts have always had these. Please tell me I didn’t spend my hard earned money on a Gen 4 that is lesser quality than Glock’s of the past. They need to follow what the other gun manufacters are doing. While completely and utterly late to the single-stack subcompact 9mm party, it still became one of their most popular pistols to date. I already had the 23 in a gen-3 and am unable to discern any obvious difference when shooting the gen-3 and gen-4 when it relates to recoil and shot placement. GLOCK Gen4 pistols come with a modular back strap system, allowing you to choose the back strap that best fits your grip without changing your grip angle. I forgot to mention the new mag release button, sticks right into your flesh if your right handed, and carry Strong Side 3oclock to 4 oclock. I have 4 Glock Gen4 guns. The trigger feels all wrong, heavy, creepy. Stop drinking the Glock KOOLAID!! {No you can’t mix and match!} Thanks for any knowledgeable input — I am no Glock expert by a long shot, so educated comments would be much appreciated. Solid 100% of the time. Thanks for the update! And yes there are Gen 4 Glocks out there with zero problems. David Wright US ARMY RANGERS 11th BRAVO, Thank for the honesty SGT. (Some lady cop from Springfield MO had the most worn glock I ever saw, I swear she must have fired that thing two or three hundred thousand rounds). FYI, in Europe Glock is getting hammered. The new coating that one reader commented on is also of interest to me. Here is my thought about the new model Glocks what ever the number. Neither is particularly hard-kicking for a light weight centerfire pistol. Short Reviews - Glock 24 Mags, Geisselle Charging…, Glock and Lipsey's Team Up for 'Pistole 80'…, Need a New Summer Backpack? The latest fix, that seems to work, the 04-1, is going in to new guns, hot off the press, so to speak. I’ll stick by my tried & true “Old Friends”. If you want a less snappy firring pistol buy a CROSSMEN BB GUN! I also liked the de-cocking feature, and I could also tell if I had a round chambered while the gun was in my holster. agreed, the ridges in the grip are too small for me and do not fit my hand, mine also seems to shoot left and with practice ammo it is not consistent shoots much better with duty ammo. Hello! G17 (original) is a GREAT gun, the other Glocks are AVERAGE at most. Hook and Loop Holsters Using VELCRO® Brand Fasteners. Gen 4 not better than Gen 3 would choose Gen 3 over Gen 3 over any day of the week. Single stack 9mm, and very accurate. The only way that things will change there. by Aim-To- Please. Whatever, but not their gun! The stipling on the Gen 4 Glock pistols is a little more aggressive. Or, do this experiment. The already legendary G43 is a GLOCK Single stack, 9 mm Luger caliber pistol. Just Google Glock GEN 4 Failure videos, lots more every day pop up. Hardcast isn’t like the regular, soft lead used in common bullets. Multiple agencies have already dumped Gen 4 Glocks due to problems. But then also, on a side note, I and my Gen. 3 Model 35 always have and always will be able to handle the “snap” from the recoil of the .40S&W. The safeties do not impress me. Do you honestly think anyone would go in to business NOT to make money? Does Glock have a factory outlet that sells used Glock Models? It is all business. It’s the first pistol I’ve ever seen that needed to break in. I am aware of the problems Glock has had with the GEN 4…basically took a page out of Apple’s playbook and decided to let the first several thousand users/purchasers beta test their product. Come on B Hock! The Tennifer finish as used in Austria, can not be imported into the US, this is to do with the chemicals. The recoil sensations are different, but I can’t say one is really worse than the other. I have been when you are I think. Is aparently S&W like, is just as good. I have a Gen 4 G22, which I puchased shortly after they were introduced to the market. My first “fix” attempt will be to run a thousand or so dry fires with some snap caps, then put in the -.5lb competition spring and see if it helps. Glock has a few decades of expertise on how to hide the fact that it has even been an engineering issue. Fabulous gun. This isn’t too surprising, as most new models always seem to need tweaks. Am about ready to take the plunge and order a Glock 20 10mm for backpacking in bear country and woods use. This is a table-top review and comparison of the Glock 19 Gen 5 and the changes it has made in evolution since the Gen 2. I do like a weapon that you do not have to worry about scratching the fininsh on. I liked Walt her’s mag release much, much better than Glock’s. I carry either a Baby Desert Eagle (original) in .45 ACP or an SA XDS in .45 ACP, or occasionally a Colt Defender in .45 ACP. However, some prefer the added traction, especially when shooting with gloves. Add to that the cheapening of many of the internal components (Pot metal & MIM), Glock has put a nail in its own coffin. I dont know what to do with it. That said, those surface changes may make a difference to you. still not sure about the G4, needs to be on market longer as it does seem to have issues. I have 2 gen-4 Glocks, a g-22 and g-23. I’m left handed, but shoot right hand. I do occasionally shoot left handed just in case I have a need if my right arm is incapacitated. Glock has managed to produce a real LEMON and will not admit it! Should I go look at Glock again or if I take it to the range will I be looking, on the second round, at the wrong end of the barrel? Well, better is very, very relative. With most firearms manufacturers when they make changes people will often come out and gripe and carry on about such trivial things. These are the “usual” weapons I would compare a Glock with if I bought one. The grip has a built-in beaver tail design which allows the shooter to acquire a high and tight grip. connector on the old Glock 19 is not reliable and should be replaced with an 8 lb unit. As with all Glock 19 generations, the Glock 19 Gen 3 and the Glock 19 Gen 4 retain their industry changing striker fire design. No need for modification. People need to deflate their egos, and drain some testosterone. The Gen 3 guns, much like the first two generations, are workhorse pistols. We own and shoot a broad range of weapons. I paid almost 600.00 but with the threat of new gun laws coming I was willing to pay for it. I think you might be using the first 4 of the serial number instead of the 3 character date code. After all, the fact of the matter remains is that it’s a Glock, and that’s all that matters……. Then address them and came up with the M&P line. Generation 5 magazines And after markets that tried the same ‘type’ of recoil for the earlier gens have come up short. I purchased a Glock 17 in 1989. If you know the answer you probably realize that except for maybe Competition Shooting, the drop frees were still Glock’s greatest comprimise/change to date for the American Market. It will make you really appreciate the recoil dampening effect of the Glock design, even in the G3 version. Not the typical gun owner who shoots a box here and there and declares his gun reliable. I believe the Gen 4 is better suited for lefties tan right handers. It started in the full-size 9mm and .40 S&W pistols (Model 17 and 22), and has since progressed into the compact (19 and 23), the subcompact (G26 and 27) and now into the “Practical Tactical” models (35 & 34). Glock pistols of this generation added the finger grooves - some love 'em, some hate 'em - and the Universal Glock Rail to the dust cover of the frame. I’m packing it up and sending to Glock and hopefully they can work it out. Gen4 - Safe Action Pistols Compare (0) Compare. Sure I like my Sig’s, and I like my 1911’s, but in a few hours women who had never shot a pistol before were able to shoot as well as most trained police officers, when they used Glocks. Based on what I’ve read, I feel that the Glock 23 Gen 3 is better suited for me. If I carried a Glock I NEW it would work everytime. If you talk bad about a new pistol line, guess how many you will sell??? Packed it up and sent it to Glock, (UPS charged me $40 dollars – FL to Georgia). Wrist must be bent to accomplish this. I need to say that I am impressed by the new GEN4 upon my first shoot. It just did not seemed to matter which one was being used other than slightly slower times with the larger ones because of a little more recoil. I’ll stick with my reliable 23 Gen 3. Glock got scarred, when people started buying the adjustable frame guns for men and women with smaller hands. It was my first Glock and after being a glock hater for years I loved it after the first day at the range. I find the gen-4 not as cozy Probably in my head. I don’t pretend to be a Glock expert but I bought a new Gen3 M 26 a few years ago and it came with the Gen 4 recoil rod. I mean, if I wanted wimpy recoil I’d of just gotten something in .22. 🙂, And I’m sorry, whenever I shoot bad with a gun I don’t blame it on the so-called “grip angle” of the gun. Personally, I think it’s all in one’s head. It either fits you or it doesn't and there's not much to help it if that's the case short of an aftermarket frame. Of course many will say, “Well how much training do you think the average police officer gets?” And they unfortunately are correct, but that is beside the point. The 1911 is .45 yet it is slimmer than a Glock in 9mm. It snags and can actually release the magazine. It is the consistency across the product line that is the problem. They simply worked perfect. If you wanted a new Gen 4 9mm or .40S&W-chambered Glock, better hurry because the company is moving to Gen 3 or 5 only when it comes to those models. I think the new recoil assembly is a solution in search of a problem. Then the 36. Failures seemed to be more because of “pilot error” than any fault with the gun. Why I purchased a Gen. 3 Model 21 and why. There FAILING with Law Enforcment, and we all know POLICE DEPTs issue Garrbage ammo for their officers lifes to deppend on!! I have a Glock Compact .45 for carry use and had to send it to Robbie Barkman to get a grip reduction an it’s still somewhat uncomfortable. just sold my 1911 so I can get a g35.I loved my 1911 but had a couple ftf. can you add a new gen 4 #23 barrel, slide ,and springs and shoot it safely in a gen 3 model #19? Those who never owned one that finally decide to get one, may be doing so because of the new Gen4 features ? SOCOM barely even uses them anymore. Free FedEx Option* (13) Glock MAG G26 12RD 9mm PKG $ 27.22 (1) Glock MAGAZINE POUCH $ 6.16 (1) Glock MAGAZINE POUCH 10MM $ 6.16 (2) Glock MAG G37 10RD 45GAP PKG $ 20.91 (4) Glock … It fits well in my hand. When the first Glock pistol (Glock 17) was released in Austria in 1982, it caused quite a sensation. Glocks are certainly not my favorite pistols to shoot, but the 19 is my current choice for a CCW because it manages to squeeze its 15 rounds into a space roughly the same size as my P7 for about 500 bucks. Glocks could handle a limited amount of these with a cleaning directly after without trouble or harm to the gun. (1911 grips, am I right?) Nothing is changed internally or really all that substantially; the gun is pretty much the same except for some surface changes. During that time I probably went through close to 500,000 rounds from glocks. Glock 20: Which is better GEN 3 SF or GEN 4 ? It’s a great article, thanks. I guess there is not much money to be made…. 2. The only fault I see with this system is that the back strap inserts seem hollow, and frankly, a little flimsy.  That being said, I’ve carried the Gen 4 G35 with the medium MBS in, and it hasn’t failed me yet, so I may very well be wrong. We shoot alot of ammo and with the proper ammo vs. spring combination there are no complaints down here. Thanks! My gen 3 was gtg out of the box and I changed out some parts that i ordered from the states like an ext mag release and takedown lever and slide release but I did not touch the factory trigger. I liked my G17L but Hated Glock’s grip angle. BUT, they really tear it up at the range or in the open field. And yes, I’m of the prefer the Gen. 3 if it aint broke don’t fix it group. However, many of the folks I shoot with think that Glock is just the moon and then some. If Glock had a 1911 grip angle, I would get it! The one incorporation that I thought really indicated Glock was adapting to a changing landscape in the handgun market, was the MBS – Multiple Back Strap system.  Manufacturers such as Walther and HK have already used a system that had multiple back straps to adapt a gun to better fit your hand.  Then along came the Smith and Wesson M&P with whole grip panels.  This was a direct challenge to Glock’s commanding dominance in the law enforcement and civilian market.  I was hearing a lot of chatter from agencies looking at guns like the M&P to replace their “one size fits all” Glocks, and civilians who weren’t already locked into the Glock were flocking to look at the M&P. Thanks again. Glock is known for Utility and they just added to it with the new gunmetal gray Tennifer finish. Any kid can fire this gun so I keep it out of reach of little hands. Which is better? When you trade in look into a g36 gen3 or a gen 4 -19. 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